Hidden Truths in Human Design - A Conversation with Trish Murray

Anita Adams: 00:00:04

Welcome to the joyful journey podcast. If you're looking for more clarity in your life, clarity of purpose or how to activate that purpose, and you are someone who wants to operate from your highest self to be a force for good, you know this world craves, then this is the show for you. I'm Anita Adams, your host and guide to finding clarity and creating a life you love. Let's tap into our inner wisdom, access our highest self and unleash joy. As we do this, we raise our vibration and heightened the collective consciousness. And that my friend, is the joyful journey. Let's dive in. Hey, joyful journey here, Anita Adams here your host and today I'm excited to introduce you to Trish Murray. After 25 years in business and marketing, Trish found herself on a 10 year long healing journey, exploring and integrating a myriad of resources and practices to recalibrate burnout, body, mind and soul and reshape a life of work into a life 360 degrees. Today, Trisha is focus is fast tracking CEOs and business owners towards individual inspired insights and coded into their birth data that shaped their unique soul style and equips them with more soul aligned solutions inside their business and beyond. Trish integrates her study in psychology, marketing and business with principles and practices from yoga therapy, astrology, and human design for more meaning, purpose and alignment between soul and business. All right, welcome, Trish. I am so pleased to have you here with us today to learn more about you and the work you do.And I want to dissect this beautiful,

Anita Adams: 00:02:05

beautiful Bible that you gave me. I I have questions. Can we start there?

Trish Murray: 00:02:09

Absolutely. Thank you. Nice to be here. So good

Anita Adams: 00:02:13

to have you. Okay, this first little bit I'm so super curious about reshape a life of work into a life 362 degrees. I don't understand that. Explain that, to me a little?

Trish Murray: 00:02:28

Well, I think there's probably at least one listener, or viewer who will understand the treadmill. And the treadmill is the life of work. The treadmill is you get up, you go to work, you come home, you go to sleep, you get up and you keep doing that over and over and over again. And I was probably just coming up on my midlife shift, when it really started to become very I felt it, I felt that there was a shift coming. And that shift really started to come into focus when through meditation and that kind of thing. When I started to hear this life 360 Life is so much more than just the work. Life is so much more than just the business and or just the fill in the blank, whatever it is for you. And so that was for me. One of the biggest pivot points that I hit in my in my midlife journey was really recognizing that I had constructed a life of work, working all the time, six days a week, 12 hours a day and not much else. But at the same time, everything else had become a word come to feel like work, right birthday parties, going out with friends, it was all just starting to feel like duty and obligation as opposed to fun, and excitement and joy. So that's my life of work into life. 360s

Unknown: 00:03:58

Okay, I get that.

Anita Adams: 00:04:00

What do you think that thing was that you were hearing that life is more than 360?

Trish Murray: 00:04:06

Oh, oh, well, I was actually just listening to one of your recent podcasts called trust the Nagle's? Oh, my gosh, the niggles is that what I you know, I kind of refer to it as our inner Oracle, or that inner voice of wisdom, you know, just that intuitive part of us that is so strong, and trying to communicate like our sole voice, maybe even as what some people might call it. So I think of the nickels as equally vital is what you pointed out in that podcast. And I think that was really what I was tuning into through that period of time was, you know, like, the voice was just getting stronger and stronger because I hadn't been tuning in. I hadn't been sort of listening with that with that deeper, intuitive base.

Unknown: 00:04:57

Right. Awesome. I

Anita Adams: 00:04:58

love that and I Haven't heard inner Oracle before. And I really like that

Anita Adams: 00:05:04

I use inner wisdom soul

Unknown: 00:05:05

voice,

Trish Murray: 00:05:07

Higher Self inner. That's good. It's just, there's so much wisdom. So I think there's there's a, there's a reason why that particular work was given to me for sure.

Anita Adams: 00:05:20

Yeah, okay, got it. Now human design, that's

Anita Adams: 00:05:23

another thing that I talk about lightly on your bio Anna and I don't, I haven't heard that term either. What is a design?

Trish Murray: 00:05:32

Well, so human design is actually I would say, kind of an expansion, off of Western astrology, it actually pulls in a lot of different things like the Chinese eaching and an Eastern Astrology like Vedic Astrology. It pulls in quantum physics, which is another one of my little side interests is understanding the whole field and the energy. So it is my interpretation of it is that it is the next iteration of the insights that we would get through our astrological natal chart. And you know, when I because I work with people on both sides of that, I feel like human design brings us to a place of precision insights, there's a precision nature to the themes, and that come through our human design charts that I don't get when I'm working solely with someone's astrology or numerology.

Anita Adams: 00:06:42

Okay, I need a little more clarity here is, um, so you talk about your birth data is that that's the is that the astrological signs and time that you're born and all that stuff?

Trish Murray: 00:06:55

Well, so starting with your birth data, you know, you can just work with some basic numerology and get some pretty deep insight about, you know, how we are wired, how, you know, that unique aspect of who we are at a soul level. And, you know, like to just back up a little bit i in the corporate world, I worked a lot with personality type profiling, and that kind of stuff. As part of my iteration into where I'm at right now. And the one thing that kind of really stood out for me is in some of the profiling tools, they talked about your natural style, and your adaptive style. And I thought, isn't that interesting, that we have this adaptive style? And so, you know, it's nice to know that we can adapt to certain situations or environments or circumstances, but is adapting the ultimate goal? Or is the goal finding a way to bring ourselves more in alignment with our natural style, or I refer to it as our soul style? Because I'm using that that sort of birth data. And it just sent me down rabbit hole to really start thinking about what is what what, what is the optimal expression for us? Is it to be in our adaptive style? Or is it to find our way into and create a world, our corner of the world in a way that really does reflect who we are at a soul level and that natural style? So, so yeah, so the birth data was, it was a bit of an experiment. And I have been trying to remember all the steps back that I took to get here and you know, some of them are going to escape me. But what what it really came down to is, you know, I was, pardon my Can I swear on your podcast, go for it. I was fucking around with a whole bunch of stuff in the pursuit of meaning and purpose, and, and a deeper sense of alignment with that life. 360 And what does that look like? And, you know, finding my way into work that had a deeper meaning to me. For a lot of reasons, and when I started to look at all of the, sort of the data that I was gathering, by looking at my numerology, my astrology, my human design, I was like, this is this is who I actually really am. This is who I really am. And I didn't know it intellectually. It was like this. It was this heart feeling of this theme or this piece here resonates so strongly for me and I don't even know why. Yeah, so um, so that was kind of the the journey and then I started doing case stories around, you know, sort of well known or high profile people just to be able to prove to myself because I'm a bit of a scientist at heart. And the ironically, the Human Design piece was presented to me, way back in 2015. And there's two sides to human design. One is a very traditional approach that was written by a fellow and I'm probably not gonna say his name, right, but raw Roo. And then it's been adapted into sort of a quantum conversation very high vibrational language by a woman by the name of Karen curry Parker, that's who I study with. And the themes are expansive, right. And so human design is really it's a it's a way of understanding ourselves, it's a way of understanding. You know, if you were to think of we came into this life with a bit of a blueprint for how we could piece together and, and move ourselves into the fullest expression of the divine, which we are. Human Design, helps us understand what those themes are, what those, you know, potential obstacles are that we might come up against, what maybe the soul curriculum are the lessons that we're here to learn in pursuit of soul growth. Okay.

Anita Adams: 00:11:19

I hadn't intended to go down this path when we got on a conversation. And yet I feel really called to understand this deeper if we can spend a little more time and just a little more time on this, because I feel that that is our our job as human beings is to really understand who we are, know thyself, know thyself. And I believe there are different ways to know thyself. And for me, that process has been simply just going for a walk in the forest, and connecting to my environment. And in so doing, I feel like I'm connecting to my higher self, to to God to all that is, and you you are sharing another way to understand who you really are. And I, I want to understand this other way. So,

Unknown: 00:12:12

can we dive in a little deeper with them? Okay, so

Anita Adams: 00:12:16

where do we start with that conversation?

Trish Murray: 00:12:19

Well, so let me your maybe your story, is it okay, are there long as I pull out the highlights? I mean, let's let's just back up to 2012. Because that's in truth, where I would say that the story actually really kicked into high gear for me, and I've been doing a lot of work with people who are going through that midlife shift. And, you know, one of the things that I've come to, to start with with people is recognizing that one of the reasons why we call it a midlife crisis, in my opinion, is that we have no idea. The astrological events that are going on through that 15 year period from about 37 to 60, let's say 50, for sure. And then the 50s to 60s, it's a whole other decade where we're integrating so much stuff that we've that we've been kind of bringing been brought through if we've been open to receiving from those sorts of astrological experiences. And I'm talking about things like there's in astrology, they talk about returns, right, certain planets returned to the same place as they were, where they when we were born. And that creates an experience for us. And experience based around certain themes around you know, there were certain energies that are coming in in a stronger way. In numerology, we've APO people's personal pyramids, and we can find four pivot points that have again, a specific theme. And it's like, you know, if you imagine before you came into this life, and I'm, I'm going to honor the people who may not believe in multiple lifetimes, because I don't think you have to believe that in order to get a hold of what I'm saying. So you come into this life, but before you came, you went through a strategic planning process with the divine with the Creator, God, whatever you'd refer to that as, and you guys all map out, like what's going to happen in this lifetime, major milestones, themes you want to focus on, you know, where you're probably going to need a little bit more support from the Divine at certain points in your life. And then you forget it all when you get here. And I my experience is that the numerology, the astrology the human design is all about helping us remember helping us to remember what it is that we actually signed on for when we came and to make that journey in a far more peaceful a easy way, my journey was not peaceful. It was not easy. And it was not fast. It was long. I took the long way around. And

Anita Adams: 00:15:11

can I can I ask a quick question because it onto the story. And maybe it's not

Anita Adams: 00:15:16

a quick question.

Unknown: 00:15:18

Why

Anita Adams: 00:15:19

are we forgetting? Why are we coming to live our life with a blank slate and having to what often feels like fighting to remember? Yeah. And you know, kind ourselves? Or is that is that too big of a question to ask?

Trish Murray: 00:15:36

It is? In my opinion, I think that is a huge question. And I think that that would take us down some pretty intense rabbit holes. I think we could look at it from the perspective of part of the journey is the remembering, right? We believe that I

Anita Adams: 00:15:56

do believe that we are here to remember who we really are really understood why we forgot in the first place, is it because it that's how we learn to evolve is by the remembering process the

Trish Murray: 00:16:13

well again, I'm gonna ask for permission, because it's your podcast, say whatever you can, it'll, it'll just be based on my opinion, and some of the rabbit holes that I have gone down. But, you know, there's a few theories that I think are plausible. Number one, we are meant to find joy in the remembering,

Anita Adams: 00:16:32

ah, that speaks to me.

Trish Murray: 00:16:36

And, and, you know, I think that whether your audience is ready for this particular theory or not, I personally believe that there's been a lot of influence in our world that has caused us to forget to stay forgetting, and also a lot of influences that have hidden ways and means for us to remember than to relearn or to expand on where we came in at, if you if you ascribe to the multiple lifetimes. And you know, I was just just working on a workshop presentation, and one of the intro slides that I share with people is that there's that there's hidden knowledge, there's hidden wisdom, behind locked doors. And those doors have been locked for a reason. And some of those reasons aren't very nice to talk about. But they are what they are. And again, this is just a theory of mine. And but if you think about the locked doors, one of those locked doors for me or one of those influences. For me, keeping a door locked is how things are marketed. And this is my previous career. I'm very well versed in a lot of the tricks and a lot of the tools and a lot of the things that get that happened in marketing. And they're not always aboveboard, some of its actual bullshit. And some of its actually deceptive. And as consumers, we all kind of know that, but we don't know that. And so I look at just even where we started this conversation, in terms of how is numerology and astrology been marketed? Well, it's been marketed as this, like woowoo stuff, and it's so unattainable. And the average person can't ever really understand that. No, I don't agree with that. I don't personally agree with that. Or it's been marketed as a cult. And that's actually a true definition. When you understand what a call it means. It means hidden or obscured, or, or not even, or maybe, like not even understandable with the rational mind. So I get all of that I would actually agree that it is kind of occult, it's been hidden away. But I think that there's spiritual and religious reasons why we haven't been invited to go down that path. And that, again, is part of the journey, I think, for all of us is sorting through what do we really believe is true and what is not true? What is really serving us and what is not serving us and, and, you know, what did our souls come here to explore this time round?

Anita Adams: 00:19:27

That's beautiful. I love that. I believe that there's a certain readiness that we have to arrive at before doors can be opened before we can really see. Yeah, I agree. And that's the journey, I suppose that's, we're we're working to ready ourselves for the opening of the next door. And that's a lot about what I'm here to do personally, and to assist my clients to do is help them open those doors. I really understand who they are, what they want, why it matters. And looking deep into to the depths of our being.

Trish Murray: 00:20:11

Well, and you know, that in and of itself isn't for everybody. And I learned this actually, when I was working when as I work with the numerology, so in numerology, I usually start with somebody with their core number. And the numbers work from two until 10. And then they move into sort of master numbers, but let's just work to until 10, right 23456. And as I've worked with people around as I have come to, again, another theory that if someone has come into this life, with a core number of four, I can't work with them, the way that I would work with somebody who's at a core number of nine. And it's, it's my belief right now, that and it's like I said, Guys, I'm working with a theory here. It's my belief right now that, you know, part of that is, is because we're, we're at that stage of growth. And we're integrating all of the four elements, if you've come in with a core four. And you're not ready for a chord, because there's all these other things that we learned as a core five as a core six as a core seven, that build on each other. And it's, it's quite fascinating for me now to look at this. And, you know, then the question becomes, well, do we only get come here nine times? I don't think so. I don't think so. But that's just my personal philosophy. Oh,

Anita Adams: 00:21:41

let me I know nothing about numerology. Okay, so is the, the number supposed to correspond with the number of times you've been reincarnated? Is that what you're? You're suggesting?

Trish Murray: 00:21:55

I'm no, because that would mean that we only come here nine times, right? Or 10 times or 11? times? Right. And I don't believe that that's necessarily true. But I do believe it's a reflection of the depth of learning. So maybe you're coming back as a as a core three. But this time, we're, we're learning sort of more of the deeper insights that surround what it is to be a core three, or a core nine, right? The challenges will maybe be a little bit different this time around, because we're wanting to integrate that even deeper. And yeah, so that's, it's just a fun little theory that I'm working with. I like

Anita Adams: 00:22:34

it's really interesting. How do you get your core number? What's what is how do you determine your core number, that's

Trish Murray: 00:22:41

a super fun, easy, easy thing. If you just take the numbers of your birthdate translate them into numbers, right? So if you're, let's just use may 5, or may 8 of 1972. Right, and you just you're adding the five, and the eight, and the one, the 97, and the two together, and then you're gonna distill that down to? Well, let's just use that as an example. Or if you want to use your number, I need to take your numbers, take your birthdate and and just add them up. And so if you get to something like let's just say you get a 29. Yeah, right. That's what your number adds up to. You're gonna distill that down to the next number, which is an 11. What how do you guys because you're just gonna keep adding the numbers together, right? Well, I see.

Anita Adams: 00:23:35

I see. Okay, count becomes one number like, digit. Oh, that's yeah,

Trish Murray: 00:23:40

that's a rule. If we distill it down to one number, there are exceptions to the rule. And that was a good one. Because if your number was 29, and you distill it down to plus nine is 11. You stay there because a cor 1111 is a master number in numerology. And so you don't distill it any further than that, because there's a whole theme that goes along with a core 11. Right.

Anita Adams: 00:24:05

Okay, so is it then if I'm understanding correctly, is it that number is then correlated with a certain level of evolution that your soul has gone through? Maybe is that

Trish Murray: 00:24:20

possibly possibly but in I try and keep it just in this context, in the context of this lifetime? And what you're might be experiencing what I what I believe, based on my own personal numbers, and the work that I've been doing with people is that it becomes an overarching theme to what, what what's going on, on what's going on in your life. So I've got a client right now she's a CT, eight and a CT eight is really kind of if I were to distill it down to two words, the risers and strivers and as soon as I said that phrase to her, she was, oh my god, that is true. totally be right there, there's a there's a desire to want to achieve, and, and absolutely live from a place of independence, right? So, so there's this, this conversation always going on in terms of how do I rise to be able to reach my next level of achievement, but also feel a sense of independence doing it my way, doing it in a way that really fits me. Whereas a core five, our freedom, freedom lovers, and they will organize their lives in such a way that they are either experiencing more freedom, or they are able to live more fully in that life 360 With with a sense of love, like they just love their life. And they, you know, so I see this a lot with people who have split Clute careers, right? Maybe you're a bartender because you want to be a performer. Right? Very often, you'll find them in a core five, because they're, they're piecing their life together for the greatest amount of freedom and to live in every way that they love.

Unknown: 00:26:08

Thank you for

Anita Adams: 00:26:10

clarifying that a bit. I have to be honest, I was a little worried that, that maybe if I do my numbers, I'm going to discover that I'm a two or three. And in my mind, I automatically went to that that is not as bold. Yeah, that's a bad thing. And I'm like, you know, like, that's that that's an old, an old little self belief of that, that not enoughness sort of calming up. And it's so funny. I haven't felt that in a long time. And all of a sudden, I'm like, oh, maybe I'm only a three and therefore I'm not enough. thing.

Trish Murray: 00:26:45

You know, so interesting that you say that I need it. Because I hear that a lot from people, especially in workshops. They're like, Oh, I'm only a core three. I'm like, only Oh, my gosh, let me tell you what a core three is all about. Right? And so, you know, the, the, I'm hesitant about throwing that theory out there because I don't know, it just makes sense to me, because when I see people who are core eights or core threes, I can see them working from this really stable base of what a core two is all about. Like, okay, so you learn that we learn that, and I'm looking at it even from my own perspective, I'm a core 11. And I look back on Oh, yeah, man, I can tell that I have gone through the deep, experiential, philosophical learning that would accompany somebody who's a core seven. I've I really learned to balance the ambition and the humanitarianism that would accompany somebody who's a chord nine, right. So it just it kind of makes sense. But I don't think of it in terms of, of better or worse, less than or nor then. No, it's, it's where you're, I think of it as in terms of depth and layers of the onion.

Anita Adams: 00:28:01

Yeah. Okay. And so is that what you're talking about? When you say, your soul style? Are you talking about your user that that that core number, or is that?

Trish Murray: 00:28:12

Well, I think in my world, I think that there's all kinds of ways to find your soul style. I am using it, I'm kind of taking ownership of that phrase for myself, and introducing pieces to people based on whatever it is that they're looking for, mostly in the context of their business. Right. But also, you know, I work with a lot of business owners who understand that work of like life of work, and they are looking for how, you know, what is it that will inspire them to recalibrate, right? So I do that more with, you know, the pieces of numerology pieces of astrology and pieces of the human design, that that really is going to, I think resonate the most and create that. That sense of inspiration. I don't know if you heard this recently, but I was just reading something about how kids learn more when they're inspired. Then when they were afraid. And I said to myself, well, I guess but we're all kids.

Anita Adams: 00:29:18

Yeah. Well, it makes sense. I mean, I would think that when we're inspired, we're in that state of expansion, but we're in we're afraid we kind of contract in on ourselves. And it's hard to learn when we're, when we're

Trish Murray: 00:29:32

sure. Yeah. And if you think back to what we've been talking about, right, like, remembering remembering is it's kind of an exploration. It's kind of, you know, Joseph Campbell or Carl Jung, they worked with that hero's journey. And, you know, it really is about choosing to step out on that and it's hard to do when you're afraid. It's hard to do when you're tired. It's hard to do when you're burned out. It's hard to do when you know the press sure of the world is just weighing on your shoulders. And, you know, the more we can get ourselves to a place of curiosity. I think that's a good thing.

Anita Adams: 00:30:08

That is a theme that has come back again and again on the show with numerous guests is being in a state of curiosity, we can embrace a curious nature that we will have that that uncovering, I guess they discovery that

Unknown: 00:30:29

they want to,

Trish Murray: 00:30:31

on a on a whole other tangent, that's actually kind of what I'm thinking about when, when I am when we were talking about the Age of Aquarius, right? Oh, Aquarius, right. And, you know, Aquarius, obviously, sign in the zodiac in the, in the western Zodiac. And it's there is there was a when I started to kind of study into the Age of Aquarius to understand what that was, because in my opinion, everything that we see going on in our external world right now is met, like it lines up very closely to what those themes are, that are associated to the Age of Aquarius. Even though, you know, crazy, chaotic stuff, it makes sense, if you kind of are able to look at it through this lens of what is Aquarius. Aquarius is all about, you know, change, because it's ruled by the planet Uranus change and a little bit of disruption, and intentionally looking for ways to challenge the status quo. And I mean, these are all things that resonate with me now.

Anita Adams: 00:31:42

This is the state of the world right now. This

Trish Murray: 00:31:43

is what we're Yeah. Yeah. But if you'd asked me to entertain these ideas, and 2012, I would have been like, no, got no capacity for that no change know that I'm told, because of burnout. Right? It was totally burned out.

Anita Adams: 00:31:57

Well, and I would love to have a conversation about the Age of Aquarius, I want to come back, though, because you were telling us about your personal story. And then you just mentioned again, I was in a state of burnout. So I feel like maybe we were coming from your cut to that point. So can we pick up where we left off on, on where you were on your journey that brought you to what you're doing today?

Trish Murray: 00:32:18

Yeah, and I love doing that. Because I think that, you know, one of the things that I will often say to people is that the very first thing that I needed to do for myself, was to create mindspace, I couldn't entertain any of this stuff, I couldn't take in this new concept, these new, you know, ideas, without creating mindspace. And what I chose to do, in order to create that is something I would never ask anybody else to do. Because it was, it was extreme at times. But that was the first thing. So being able, you know, having this conversation about where I was, the burnout was a big thing. I did, I made the choices that I needed to make in order to bring myself into a state where I could heal, and the healing, accompany, you know, creating space in my mind, to just consider other options and other thoughts. But the healing journey in and of itself was was probably, you know, I'm not sure that I could say that I'm done. Right, I think that it's something that I'm always learning, and that I was saying to you that that was one thing that really landed for me when I started working with my human design chart, because one of the themes for me, is embodiment. And, Or said another way, the love of the body learning to love my body, physically love my body, like like appreciate every single wrinkle every single scar every single, you know, problem area, right, whatever language we want to use, but also appreciating and loving on it in from an emotional perspective, right, like thinking about all thoughts that we think about that aren't always very kind towards ourselves. And then really learning to love the body as a vessel for the divine spirit, right? For the soul to live. The best life ever, right? A lot loving the body for that purpose. So I worked with a lot of different modalities, a lot of different practices in order to bring myself to a place of not balanced, but maybe equilibrium is a better word. And so, you know, maybe it's helpful for your audience because I don't really know where they are in their journey. But for me, there were kind of three things that I did and I really started with body based practice. This is, you know, I went back into yoga I had been had on and off relationship with yoga for, gosh, 25 years at the time. And I made a commitment to my yoga practice. And that involves, of course, meditation. And that sort of served as a mind based practice. So there's body based practices, mind based practices, and then spiritual or energetic, maybe face product practices. And I think part of that journey, right, we're talking about, you know, the joy in remembering the joy in coming, bringing ourselves out of burnout or creating mind space, or whatever we're doing. Part of that is is, is, I think, really starting to tune into that inner oracle that we talked about inner Oracle and listening for when she or he wants to say, I think it's time for a mind based practice now. Right, I think it's time to go to a spiritual or an energetic type practice now. And yeah, so the body based practices was was big, right? Natural pas, that kind of thing. Homeopathy. I work with a lot of herbals right now. And then the mind based practices, it was of course meditation, I learned something called Heart brain coherence. You can find more out about that, I think it's a very powerful experience through HeartMath Institute. And, and then the spiritual or the energetic experiences, that would have been things like Reiki, right, when I went and got my level one to Reiki certification. And then, you know, I kind of started to wrap it all up into that holistic or integrated thing that that is yoga, right union between body, mind and spirit. When I studied yoga, I went to study as a teacher, got my teacher training. And then I added on to that with yoga therapy. And that, I think, was where we first started talking, Anita about somatic practices, this idea that sometimes the pain that we have in our body isn't as a result of a physical cause. And that is a complete mind shift. For for me, it was and for most people that I talked to, opening the door to the opening the locked door, to this notion that, you know, the emotion that we've experienced in our life, the experiences that we've had, whether they've been traumatic or not, maybe they've been extremely positive, but all of that gets stored in our body at an energetic level. And that is a it's a, it's a beautiful journey to take. Because I think it introduces us to our body in a whole different way. Yeah,

Anita Adams: 00:38:07

yeah. 100%, you said a number of things here that I really like. So and I wanted to just touch on a few of them and see what I'm getting at. So loving the body, loving the body, creating that space of love for the body. And I really believe I can't remember what your exact words were. But I feel like our philosophies are the same here that when we really love who we are, that opens us up to receive more of those messages from you know, the inner Oracle or God or source or whatever your word is for that. So I think that is really key. And I get the what I call truth bumps, when I say something that I think is really powerfully true. And I just got those truth bumps, loving myself. So in your practice and what you believe to create that full body of love of self, you need to have a body based practice, a mind based practice and a spirit based practice. Is that what you're saying that didn't create that now?

Unknown: 00:39:18

South? Well,

Trish Murray: 00:39:19

I what I'm what I would say as a caveat to that is that was the journey that I went through. Sure, that was the path that I followed. And I went through that cycle a number of times back to is it, you know, or is it is the court number a reflection of where we are in our soul path? Yes. And it's probably a reflection of multiple times, right? Same thing with the body based mind based spirit base. I went through multiple layers of that starting with like a naturopath. And now I'm working with herbals, like moving away from sort of the manufacturers supplements to getting back to the raw herbs. So that's like 10 years later, I'm still working with body Bay. As practices to support the physical body, but at a very different level than or a very different place than then where I would have started necessarily right. Or even with chiropractic, chiropractic was a big part of it, to start with the day still, but there have been other things that have been kind of woven in there.

Anita Adams: 00:40:20

Okay, I get that. And am I also hearing that yoga therapy or yoga has been your go to that combines those three practices the mind, body and soul?

Trish Murray: 00:40:36

Yeah, and you're gonna love this. I mean, I think maybe you'll love this because I love this part

Anita Adams: 00:40:42

of your energy right now you're very lit up.

Trish Murray: 00:40:45

When I was studying psychology, I love psychology. And I was studying psychology kind of almost at the same times, I was studying yoga therapy. And I found this book called Eastern body western mind. So let me leave your before I forget to do this, I would like to share three resources that I think your audience will find helpful no matter where they are in their journey. Number one, if you haven't already, folks found Louise Hay, heal your body. It's it's like, almost like somatic 101, right, just even kind of getting your head around this notion that emotions can be responsible for disease and illness for us. Number two, the Emotion Code by Bradley Nelson. And what I loved about the Emotion Code was yes, you can go and find Emotion Code practitioners. But he makes it so accessible for people to practice his process on your own. And that's what I ended up doing. Because I didn't I couldn't find an Emotion Code practitioner, I learned how to do it for myself. And then you know, did it for some of my yoga clients. But so that was number two, the Emotion Code by Bradley Nelson. Number three, Eastern body, western mind. And so let me come back on this because while I was studying psychology is I love it. Studying yoga therapy, and idea, Judith. And that's the author of Eastern body, western mind and idea, judo, Judith, I think her name is spelled a nod a anodea. Judith, she is a PhD psychologist. And she has like, basically woven psychology in together with the chakras from yoga. And so she will go through this, like when you read this book, and you start to realize like, you know, where our chakras either get out of balance, or where we maybe have an over expression like we're, we're like, I don't want to say over abundance, but she uses the word excess, or deficiency, and it creates situations that we're probably constantly dealing with, right, those same things that we keep coming up against. brilliant, absolutely brilliant book. And it might be like textbooks, to some people, but for me, it was just the perfect blend of these two worlds that I had been living in right psychology and yoga, and, and really looking for ways to integrate that both for myself, as well as is expanding the conversation that I was having with, with CEOs and business owners about you know, I know I know what's going on in your physical body. Here's something else that you can go and work with. And just giving people more more resources, more things to think about than just the conventional I need to go. And while in my language, take a pill.

Anita Adams: 00:43:57

Right, right. looking more deeply lifting the head in the hood and understanding what's really going on with with your body, mind, body and spirit. I think that's really great.

Trish Murray: 00:44:10

Yeah, and I'm not being disparaging towards taking a pill because I think that that is absolutely 100% necessary for a lot of people until they reach through the body based practices, the mind based practice and the energy until we move through our soul growth and and open up to the possibility that there's maybe a different way to remedy the situation. I want to

Anita Adams: 00:44:34

thank you for saying that. I think that's really important. And sometimes I know myself included I forget because I have a healthy body. I do not need to turn to medication. Yet. Some people I deeply love and care about. I know they have they they need that support. I think we need as a society as a whole we need more compassion. And around that, so I'm really glad you presence that. Yeah, thank you, thank you, um, some great resources that you're offering here, and we'll include them in the show notes. I have read Louise Hays book, she was transformative for me when, as a young woman, I'm really glad I discovered her her materials, and she was the first first person that I've ever came across, who helped me understand that what you think can really shape your reality. It's a really, her work, a lot of her work is very powerful. I highly recommend that the other two books

Trish Murray: 00:45:37

that's a conversation like, like we could have all day long every day right now, because I think that there's so much again, from my, my, my past world, so much from the marketing and the media, and the messaging that is, is keeping us on a on a track that is not allowing us to kind of expand our minds and think more divergently about the potential that well, maybe it is the Age of Aquarius, but even if it isn't, like, you know, maybe I need, maybe I do need to go and find more about who I am. And you know, what did I come here to do? Right? Is that

Anita Adams: 00:46:18

a conversation that we can build an episode around? Because I think it's really interesting. Can we offer tips for people on how to navigate the craziness of media?

Trish Murray: 00:46:30

I'm only laughing because my only solution for that unless your job depends upon it is like mind space, mind space, mind space, meaning ignore it, you got to turn it off, and really start to limit how much you're listening to it. Yeah. And the other side of it is divergent going and finding very divergent sources, people who might even be saying something that you believe is fundamentally incorrect. And I can only say this, because I have lived this. I've forced myself to go and listen to people who I thought were just so fundamentally wrong. And the eye opener for me I needed was, Wow, that is not at all what I have come to believe about that person. Like hearing them in their own words, hearing them in full conversations. Yeah. As opposed to what media does, which is soundbite right? To support a storyline. It was, it was absolutely foundational for me, the divergence, away from, you know, like, mainstream, but also just quieting a lot of that and dedicating more time to my spiritual practice and my soul practice those body based practices, the mind based practices.

Anita Adams: 00:47:55

Yeah, all of that is so healthy for you. Really interesting. I've been actually contemplating going and doing some research, not research, but listening to a particular politician. I am totally against but I'm totally against because of everything I've heard in the media. And I haven't, truthfully, I haven't. I haven't listened to this. politicians speak much, himself. And I have a hard time believing that I could possibly agree with anything he has to say. But I realized that my opinion is shaped by what I've been reading. Yeah. So and that's, that's dangerous. That's really dangerous. So

Trish Murray: 00:48:37

yeah, and I mean, obviously, I come at it from a perspective of, I spent almost 30 years in that industry, I started my career in media, and moved into sort of marketing strategy and that kind of thing. But I, I just know, how the game works. And even though I knew, I still found myself kind of just going along for a while, until a certain set of experiences just, like, like jarred me out of that space in my head. And it's not like I hadn't been taking in divergent thoughts. I've been on my journey for probably eight years for sure. Maybe 10 by then. And it was, it was a, it was a tough, you know, it was a tough experience for me. From a different perspective, tough because, you know, we all have to kind of realize that, oh, God, I was going along. Like that. I never thought of myself as a go a longer but here I was, and it was even harder, you know, and that was a lot of like healing, deep healing that had to go on for me personally, because I had been a part of it. Even if I hadn't been a part of it. I was still a part of it. You know, which can be

Anita Adams: 00:50:00

soul destroying, if you're if you're feeling like you're out of alignment with, with who you are meant to be what your your sole purpose is.

Trish Murray: 00:50:11

But to answer your question, yeah, that'd be a fun conversation to have.

Unknown: 00:50:15

Okay, we'll have

Anita Adams: 00:50:15

to consider that and maybe we'll we'll build a another conversation around that at another time. Really interesting. I'd like to bring it back a little bit more, and we'll wrap it up soon. The human design the work that human design the soul styles.

Unknown: 00:50:34

First, is there.

Anita Adams: 00:50:35

Is there anything that you can share with our audience right now that will help them understand who they are better using your practices, the human design? Or have you already maybe this you know, like, the love of body? Is your your technique and going in with the body based practice, mind based practice and spirit based practice? Is that all connected to human design? Or is like so?

Trish Murray: 00:51:01

I think so. I mean, it's certainly all what led me to human design, right? Like all of those practices. You know, I'm gonna go divergent for a second here. One of the one of my stopovers on my journey was working with something called the Kabbalah. And it's the Hermetic tradition. The Hermetic tradition has seven universal principles. And what I really got to a one of those principles, it's the principle of correspondence. And it says that there is no separation. Everything in the universe is connected. So you hear this in the blue circles, right? In the old New Age circles, right? Everybody's connected, we're all interconnected internet interconnected. And, and we are from a physics perspective, we know that, but also, just from a spiritual perspective, the spiritual traditions have told us that for 1000s of years, but there's no separation. And so when I look at my journey now, and I think of all of those places that I've been to, either in my mind or in real well, what every single one of them led me to kind of a turning point, right? Turning Point where I started to work with something, either more specifically or more. Deliberately, right, being very specific about how you work with it. So I'm not an astrologer, I use astrology to be able to provide help people connect with their own inner Oracle, through their data, right? The same thing with human design, I have I study it, in order to be able to use it in a very specific way. And I use it in a very deliberate way. But you're asking, like, did that all lead me? Like, like, is that all wrapped up in human design? I believe that it is, because when you look at what the backbone of human design is, it has taken into account a lot of the body based practices that are available to people, the philosophy that sits behind those, right, the philosophy behind Reiki, the philosophy behind yoga, it's all in there. And I think it's a beautiful representation of a lot of different spiritual traditions. And from, like, the Jewish community, not so much today a Christian but because it's, it's got aspects of Judaism in it, there's a reflection of the, you know, the Chinese culture, there's a reflection of the Indian culture, there's a reflection of just so much that and I think what sold me on quantum human physics or human design, where I didn't resonate with the traditional version of it was because it is what it's woven in quantum mechanics, quantum physics, and that is science. So, it for me, it just was it grounded, right, a lot of this very spiritual WUI stuff, and it made it feel more grounded in science, like real science, and the way that I choose to use it, I, I am choosing to use it in a way that I think honors the truth of, of science. It's an experiment. It's, we have a theory we're working. And we have we've we were gonna go and do experiments to see what happens right? You have this theme in your chart, what does that actually mean? So I would like to leave your your, your audience with one thing because I think what I love about science is that it gives us an opportunity to build confidence in something. And when you're new to a lot of this stuff, if you've never heard of human design, if you can I looked at astrology as being, you know, thank you. And same thing with numerology, I think it's really helpful to, to work with something that is, that gives you confidence. That gives you a sense of Yeah, I think there's something to this, it may not be the whole thing. But it's something there's something here. So right now we're in 2023. And in numerology, when you add those numbers up, you get to the number seven, and seven carries with it from from an energetic perspective. So sort of this feeling of going within, going within taking time making time, to reflect, to release, and to restore something in some aspect of your life. So I would invite your audience to just consider has that been showing up in your, in your corner of the world? Now, that's the global number. And then you, we each have our own soul number based on our birthday. So go back to the number that we were using, at the very beginning of this call, talking about our core number, it's our birth date is May 8, then we're going to take the month of May five and the day eight, and we're going to add it to seven. And then again, distill it down to one number, if you've got what is that 13 plus seven is 22, plus zero together is a two. So you're so that person would be in a two year, and what is a two year two years, kind of, you're just coming, you're coming into something new, right? You're, you're, you're off of a one year, right? A one year is all about new beginnings, or starting something, a two is like kind of where you're just starting to see things maybe take shape. Maybe you're starting to look for some partners to to, you know, advance it. And this is again, where I start to bring it into the business perspective, right. One of my clients just launched a new product or a new service line. That was last year. And this year is all about, okay, how do we start to grow that? How do we start to really cultivate that? What are the things that we might consider? What do we want to look for in partners, that sort of stuff?

Unknown: 00:57:16

That's really, it's really cool. I love that.

Anita Adams: 00:57:19

Do you happen to have like a one sheet or any resources that describe that, that not only the process, yet, what the numbers like the meaning the core meaning of the numbers?

Trish Murray: 00:57:33

I do I have, I just wrote, This is my first year that I wrote this. It's a 2023 energy alignment guide. And so it helps you kind of get a hit a sense of, you know, what is this global number? What is my own soul style number? And I walk you through this whole way of like, how do you test it? What are the things that I'm going to look for? And, and how can I play with this a little bit and, and play with it and have fun with it? Like, like, it doesn't have to be super serious, right? This is fun stuff. Really, when you get into it. It's really fun. It's really like, you're eager to sit there and go, I don't know how this works. But it does. And so it does. And so I love it. That would be really

Anita Adams: 00:58:13

fun, um, would be your hands on a copy of that. So I can share our audience that would Yeah,

Trish Murray: 00:58:19

so I can either send you a download, and the download is just, you know, you download it and you get it. I get my monthly email from there. Okay, and I'm subscribed to you, but

Anita Adams: 00:58:29

But yeah, it's, anybody want to unsubscribe. Okay, so if they so it's an automatic sign up for your newsletter, and you get this reading aloud. Awesome. Signing up.

Trish Murray: 00:58:42

I will send that link to you so that you can include it in the show notes for people or Yeah, it'd be

Anita Adams: 00:58:47

great. Very good. And I will also include contact information for you in the show notes but just quickly, what's the name of your website? Put it out here now so people can hear

Trish Murray: 00:58:58

you okay? So my website is soul Style Me. Soul style.me www dot Soul style.me. And that's also my handle on Instagram is soul style Trish. Awesome. And that's where you can find me.

Anita Adams: 00:59:16

Great and that's where we'll get the download right for your the freebie that you're offering.

Trish Murray: 00:59:20

Yeah, I can get it off of my website but I'll send you a direct link so that you can just get people right to it.

Anita Adams: 00:59:27

Awesome. You are an angel. Okay, Trish This was really fun and I do see how he's back on the show again because you're a wealth of information there's so many oh my gosh, there's so many ways different conversations I feel like you and I could have and I'm feeling lit up by the things that you shared with with well Anita I've done

Trish Murray: 00:59:49

a lot of fucking round